From aliak77 at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 00:48:03 2009 From: aliak77 at gmail.com (Kath O'Donnell) Date: Mon Mar 2 00:48:16 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Fwd: MLA / GEN - online courses Message-ID: <383607190903012248t11f8cde5qd7798369e0d6bbbb@mail.gmail.com> in case anyone is interested, here's some upcoming online classes. I'm doing the Gnosis Now! one now (today is start of week2, so plenty of time to catch up if anyone wants to join in) - we'll be reading a range of gnostic works - some of the Nag Hammadi scrolls - Gospel of Thomas & Gospel of Philip and academic analysis of these works, to more modern authors such as Franz Kafka, William Burroughs and Philip K Dick. there's a few Australians in the class this time which is nice to see (responses in same timezone) the evolver classes below (from Reality Sandwich writers) sound interesting too apologies for xposts cheers kath (I'm not related with the sites, but I've done a few of the MLA classes and they've all been really good) -- http://www.aliak.com http://www.brisbanedancepartiesarchive.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: -AA- Date: 2009/2/23 Subject: MLA / GEN eList February To: DeepleafeList15 Out of the gate tomorrow ascends Erik Davis' GNOSIS NOW! This is Erik's second MLA course and judging from the bounty of rich gnostic material that we've previewed this is going be an enlightening journey. Below is more info about Erik's course, plus the upcoming schedules for Growing Edge Institute and Evolver Academy. And don't miss Antero Alli's MLA ANGEL TECH in March - Antero always has a deep bag of tricks and the course gets better each time he runs it. Much love and laughter from the MLA and Growing Edge family. Maybe Logic Academy 2009 Winter/Spring Schedule Gnosis Now!??? ???? Feb 23 - Apr 5??????? ?? Erik Davis Angel Tech?????????? Mar 16 - May 10???????? Antero Alli SubGenius Life ? ??Apr 6 - May 31??????? ?? Rev. Ivan Stang Words & World?????Apr 20 - May 31???????? Philip H. Farber Chapel Perilous????May 18 - July 12???????? Eric Wagner Enrollment http://www.deepleafproductions.com/deepleafcart GNOSIS NOW! Erik Davis /?Feb 23 - April 5?/?$125 http://www.maybelogic.org/courses.htm Gnosticism is one of the most potent, complex, and misunderstood elements of western esoteric spirituality. Rooted in the apocalyptic era of early Christianity, gnostic mysticism animates hermeticism, alchemy, and magick, and has profoundly influenced modern pop culture as well (Philip K. Dick, The Matrix, even Scientology). Because gnosticism is rooted in direct experience of the divine, it remains open to many different interpretations; scholars bicker about it constantly. This class proposes to study a few of the most accessible and transformative gnostic texts, both ancient and modern, and to bring their tricky wisdom to bear on the state of consciousness today. In addition to online discussion threads, the course will feature weekly podcasts from Erik Davis, a celebrated speaker, as well as a few group voice-over-IP chats. Modestly-sized texts will include ancient gnostic gospels as well as accessible scholarly interpretations and modern short stories. Lectures and new thread topics will be posted once a week based on the weekly readings. Like all MLA courses, with the exception of the live chats, all the material for the course will be asynchronous -- students can download lectures and post to the discussion threads whenever they want. All course texts provided online with enrollment. Upcoming GEI courses: March 2 -?Starhawk?- EARTHLY DELIGHTS:?True Abundance in a Time of Scarcity March 16 -?T. Thorn Coyle?- ENGAGING THE WARRIOR'S HEART April 13 -?Dr. Art Rosengarten?- TAROT AND PSYCHOLOGY:?Crossing the Sacred Divide http://www.growingedgeinstitute.com 2009 Spring Program $400 Spring Program (all 5 courses with certificate of completion) $120 Individual EA Courses Mar 16 - Apr 26????Daniel Pinchbeck Cultivating Personal Power for the Public Good Apr 6 - May 17?????Antonio Lopez Mediacology: Media Networks, Deep Ecology and the Global Village Apr 27 - June 7????Charles Eisenstein The More Beautiful World Our Hearts Tell Us Is Possible May 18 - June 28???Anya Kamenetz Financial Integrity In Your Daily Life June 8 - July 19 ????RU Sirius Transhumanism, Singularities, and Other Far Out Futures http://www.evolveracademy.com From andynehl at optusnet.com.au Tue Mar 3 03:16:50 2009 From: andynehl at optusnet.com.au (Andy Nehl) Date: Tue Mar 3 03:17:01 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Gattaca has arrived In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31992962-4CA7-4105-B17B-A18B1EB5535E@optusnet.com.au> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7918296.stm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I can't believe there hasn't been more media coverage. A fraction of a degree difference in its course and the asteroid could have slammed into the south west pacific just north of New Zealand and made a Tsunami that would have made the Indonesian Tsunami look like a ripple. All of us who live on the east coast of Australia between the sea and the great dividing range would have been killed by a 100 metre high wave. That was pretty damned close. As Maxwell Smart woudl say, missed us by "that much". > Nathen Street wrote: > > At 12.40 yesterday morning, as the city slept, a previously unknown > asteroid > swept about 60,000 kilometres over the south-western Pacific. > > http://www.smh.com.au/national/asteroid-plays-chicken-with-earth-20090303-8nge.html From simon at rumble.net Tue Mar 3 23:13:28 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Rev Simon Rumble) Date: Tue Mar 3 23:13:31 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Conservatives the biggest consumers of Porn in the USA In-Reply-To: <200903040445.n244j8io018105@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200903040445.n244j8io018105@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <20090304051328.GH18945@rumble.net> This one time, at band camp, andynehl@optusnet.com.au wrote: > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservative Hmmm. I call bullshit because the data came from only one "major online adult entertainment provider". Perhaps they had more of the kind of "specialist" material favoured by conservatives. (What is it about Tories and kink?) More likely it's Hustler, which has a distinct libertarian bent (and excellent cartoons). -- Rev Simon Rumble www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Nerds need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ I've got nothing against any Viet Cong. - Muhammed Ali in refusing to register for the draft From queazel at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 23:22:36 2009 From: queazel at gmail.com (Michael Norris) Date: Tue Mar 3 23:22:42 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Conservatives the biggest consumers of Porn in the USA In-Reply-To: <200903040445.n244j8io018105@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200903040445.n244j8io018105@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: New Scientist articles have become a blend of part [interesting but often superficial science news updates] and part [trolls to stir up the loonies on their forum]. Lately I think the balance has swung way to the latter, which is kinda boring. I'd prefer they spent more time looking for interesting results to report & less poking sticks at deluded minorities - creationist-baiting &c. -m. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 3:45 PM, wrote: > > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservative > > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > From andynehl at optusnet.com.au Wed Mar 4 00:11:09 2009 From: andynehl at optusnet.com.au (andynehl@optusnet.com.au) Date: Wed Mar 4 00:11:19 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Ten Ways Nature Thrashes Human Chauvinism Message-ID: <200903040611.n246B9PZ028641@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> http://anadder.com/10-ways-nature-thrashes-human-chauvinism From keith.duddy at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 00:48:43 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Wed Mar 4 00:48:54 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Ten Ways Nature Thrashes Human Chauvinism In-Reply-To: <200903040611.n246B9PZ028641@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> References: <200903040611.n246B9PZ028641@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: What is this human chauvanism that the author is trying to counter... a list of why other species' genetics and mutliplicity is more than ours doesn't do a damn thing to stop us thinking we're better, or stomping on other species all around (except for a few sharks recently). I don't really get the point of this article.... human chauvanism is about the marco effects, not the microbiology. |< 2009/3/4 > > > http://anadder.com/10-ways-nature-thrashes-human-chauvinism > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090304/5caacaa3/attachment.htm From timbomb at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 00:54:21 2009 From: timbomb at gmail.com (Tim Mansfield) Date: Wed Mar 4 00:54:25 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Ten Ways Nature Thrashes Human Chauvinism In-Reply-To: References: <200903040611.n246B9PZ028641@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <35565cab0903032254hfbc0868x17d7312088fae3c2@mail.gmail.com> Who is this Marco with so many effects? 2009/3/4 Keith Duddy : > What is this human chauvanism that the author is trying to counter... a list > of why other species' genetics and mutliplicity is more than ours doesn't do > a damn thing to stop us thinking we're better, or stomping on other species > all around (except for a few sharks recently). I don't really get the point > of this article.... human chauvanism is about the marco effects, not the > microbiology. > > |< > > 2009/3/4 >> >> >> http://anadder.com/10-ways-nature-thrashes-human-chauvinism >> >> ?_______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > From phillyidol at gmail.com Wed Mar 4 01:01:33 2009 From: phillyidol at gmail.com (Phil Stocks) Date: Wed Mar 4 01:02:27 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Ten Ways Nature Thrashes Human Chauvinism In-Reply-To: References: <200903040611.n246B9PZ028641@mail03.syd.optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: <3861756E-6850-4DF6-B611-97E3AFA38C8C@gmail.com> And who knew there were 350,000 species of Beatles?? No wonder the University of Liverpool has introduced a Masters programme on their favourite sons. Some more ways nature thrashes humans (whatever that means): http://www.metacafe.com/watch/287094/better_than_you/ ? On 04/03/2009, at 4:48 PM, Keith Duddy wrote: > What is this human chauvanism that the author is trying to > counter... a list of why other species' genetics and mutliplicity is > more than ours doesn't do a damn thing to stop us thinking we're > better, or stomping on other species all around (except for a few > sharks recently). I don't really get the point of this article.... > human chauvanism is about the marco effects, not the microbiology. > > |< > > 2009/3/4 > > > http://anadder.com/10-ways-nature-thrashes-human-chauvinism > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090311/a98a1c36/attachment.htm From nick at nick.on.net Tue Mar 10 15:30:22 2009 From: nick at nick.on.net (Nick Morrison) Date: Tue Mar 10 15:30:34 2009 Subject: [eclectika] techie stuff: a reason to own an osx / unix desktop Message-ID: os x is particularly easy, because it comes with the completely awesome ipfw. man ipfw for a peek at the wicked stuff you can do with it. I'm in a situation where I'm using a wifi link that I don't trust. I want to hide and encrypt my web browsing, chatting, etc etc from prying eyes. > inv You are holding: - a parchment with the ip address of a trusted ssh server - a mac > using only these tools, I can set up a quick and dirty firewall + SOCKS proxy. so I want to do two things. I want to stop the bad guys (ie: everyone except who I trust) from knowing about my machine. I also want to effectively mask my traffic. I don't want any connections inbound, at all. no filesharing, no pings, no itunes library crap, no bonjour of any kind, no DNS lookups giving the game away. I don't want *any* traffic at all, to *anywhere*, except my trusted ssh server. to set this ruleset up is easy. I type this at a terminal prompt: nickm@uluru ~ > sudo ipfw add allow ip from 91.16.21.11 to any nickm@uluru ~ > sudo ipfw add allow ip from any to 91.16.21.11 that's hopefully self-explanatory. I didn't mention that I'll be setting up a local SOCKS listener, so I'll need local applications to be allowed to connect to 127.0.0.1. [The neat thing about SOCKS is that it's a general sort of proxy, and not limited to http traffic.] nickm@uluru ~ > sudo ipfw add allow ip from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 now I deny everything else: nickm@uluru ~ > sudo ipfw add deny ip from any to any now I can have a look at my firewall rules... nickm@uluru ~ > sudo ipfw show 33300 94 7896 deny icmp from any to me in icmptypes 8 33400 46 26671 allow ip from 91.16.21.11 to any 33500 50 6201 allow ip from any to 91.16.21.11 33600 140 53912 allow ip from 127.0.0.1 to 127.0.0.1 33700 11 1223 deny ip from any to any 33800 0 0 deny icmp from any to any 65535 28426 15753798 allow ip from any to any nickm@uluru ~ > if I've made a mistake I can either "ipfw del 33300" (for example), or "ipfw flush" to clear all the rules. and now, I should be able to set up my SOCKS proxy, which will tunnel everything via my trusted ssh server. nickm@uluru ~ > ssh -D 9050 91.186.21.118 Password: Now all I have to do is set my SOCKS proxy in Network Settings, and voila! most applications will Just Work. Applications that attempt direct connections, bypassing the proxy, will find that they are blocked by the firewall, so there's no danger of information leakage. if my open wifi owner gets interested and starts looking at my traffic, they will see a whole lotta packets on port 22 to my trusted ssh server. that could of course be traced to me, through service provider accounts etc, but that requires subpoenas and the like. my traffic is effectively masked. beats using TOR, as I recently had a TOR scare and don't trust it any more. My point here is basically that macs rock. Doing this in windows is just not an option without third party software. That's all! Nick PS: there are a few more sly things you can do, like change your mac's airport ethernet address (using "sudo ifconfig en1 ether 00:00:de:ad:be:ef") and tweak the ipfw rules so they're neater. exercise for the reader etc. -- Nick Morrison From queazel at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 23:16:47 2009 From: queazel at gmail.com (Michael Norris) Date: Tue Mar 10 23:16:51 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Anti-surveillance filmmaker plans eye-socket camera In-Reply-To: References: <7a638a150903031540h2ce3310cha04635c549e4c10a@mail.gmail.com> <209FAA76-A7A3-42D1-9164-B820518F4105@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: 2009/3/11 Andy Nehl : > > A Canadian filmmaker plans to have a mini camera installed in his prosthetic > eye > > to make documentaries and raise awareness about surveillance in society. ... or perhaps to promote the new dodgy-looking sci-fi movie "Eyeborgs". I wonder if he has any connection? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1043844/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB5YJ28NobQ -m. From timbomb at timbomb.net Wed Mar 11 23:27:33 2009 From: timbomb at timbomb.net (Tim Mansfield) Date: Wed Mar 11 23:27:40 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Bicycle Built For 2000 Message-ID: <35565cab0903112127k543358dard20d9b96a1775d17@mail.gmail.com> We know people are typically better at than software are things that involve social and emotional empathy, perspective-taking, improvisation and mild spasms of emotionally-aroused randomness - all things that go to make someone a better musician. Software, by contrast, tends to be great at things that involve exact reproduction, large scale, precise processing, arithmetic and so on. "Bicycle Built For 2000", rather ironically I think, used a computer to generate a rendition of "Daisy Bell", broke it up into fragments and via Amazon's Mechanical Turk eSweatshop platform used 2008 people asking each to sing as exact a reproduction of a fragment as they could manage. 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Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4 :) :) From anna.e.milan at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 02:33:11 2009 From: anna.e.milan at gmail.com (Anna Milanowicz) Date: Sat Mar 14 02:33:42 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat Message-ID: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> I like roo meat. It's delicious. It's lean, and it's healthy. And I'm not eating it anymore. :( At a lovely get together once upon a time, a veterinary friend and I got into a discussion about roo meat ethics. And then she sent me this article. I pass it onto fellow eclectkans for your interest. If you like eating your roo meat, please don't read it. 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My fave roo recipe. http://web.archive.org/web/19991103033654/www.netfx.com.au/danekas/s_kangaroo.html -- Rev Simon Rumble www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Nerds need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's just the opposite. - J K Galbraith From anna.e.milan at gmail.com Sat Mar 14 05:49:20 2009 From: anna.e.milan at gmail.com (Anna Milanowicz) Date: Sat Mar 14 05:49:39 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> Message-ID: 'ere it is! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Seared skippy with baby beetroot and parsnip > crisps. > My fave roo recipe. > > http://web.archive.org/web/19991103033654/www.netfx.com.au/danekas/s_kangaroo.html > > -- > Rev Simon Rumble > www.rumble.net > > The Tourist Engineer > Nerds need vacations too. > http://engineer.openguides.org/ > > Under capitalism, man exploits man. Under communism, it's > just the opposite. > - J K Galbraith > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From jgreenw at speakeasy.net Sun Mar 15 00:33:17 2009 From: jgreenw at speakeasy.net (jgreenw) Date: Sun Mar 15 00:33:26 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Predatory Lending Association: Pinpoint the Working Poor Message-ID: <20090315053316.GA22726@grace.speakeasy.net> http://www.predatorylendingassociation.com/working-poor-locations.shtml --J. From simon at rumble.net Sun Mar 15 01:12:35 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Rev Simon Rumble) Date: Sun Mar 15 01:12:37 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> Message-ID: <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> This one time, at band camp, Anna Milanowicz wrote: > 'ere it is! So have you also given up chicken, pork and stall-fattened beef? Reading this, I still think those processes are much much crueller, and in a much more avoidable way. -- Rev Simon Rumble www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Just because you're on holiday, doesn't mean you're not a geek. http://engineer.openguides.org/ "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." - Somerset Maugham From justin at hawkins.id.au Sun Mar 15 03:51:48 2009 From: justin at hawkins.id.au (Justin Hawkins) Date: Sun Mar 15 03:52:00 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> Message-ID: <2E897CAE-B7D1-45AC-B430-0B729AE76518@hawkins.id.au> On 15 Mar 2009, at 16:42, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Anna Milanowicz wrote: >> 'ere it is! > > So have you also given up chicken, pork and stall-fattened beef? > Reading this, I still think those processes are much much crueller, > and > in a much more avoidable way. I've yet to meet the chicken, pig or cow that could tell me that Clancy was in trouble up by the old dam. - Justin -- Justin Hawkins justin@hawkins.id.au From anna.e.milan at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 07:01:41 2009 From: anna.e.milan at gmail.com (Anna Milanowicz) Date: Sun Mar 15 07:01:51 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> Message-ID: <37045248-B8C6-430A-8A60-D3A58DF3719A@gmail.com> I've given up on those a long time ago. That doesn't mean we don't eat meat, but it does mean that it's sourced selectively, and not in great quantities. We're lucky to have a couple of organic butchers in our area. Also, whenever it's the season, biodynamic lamb gets purchased en bulk, and shared among friends. Once you seek out your sources, it's not that hard to avoid the Coles meat isles... Anna On 15/03/2009, at 4:42 PM, Rev Simon Rumble wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Anna Milanowicz wrote: >> 'ere it is! > > So have you also given up chicken, pork and stall-fattened beef? > Reading this, I still think those processes are much much crueller, > and > in a much more avoidable way. > > -- > Rev Simon Rumble > www.rumble.net > > The Tourist Engineer > Just because you're on holiday, doesn't mean you're not a geek. > http://engineer.openguides.org/ > > "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." > - Somerset Maugham > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From simon at rumble.net Sun Mar 15 07:50:43 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Rev Simon Rumble) Date: Sun Mar 15 07:50:52 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: <37045248-B8C6-430A-8A60-D3A58DF3719A@gmail.com> References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> <37045248-B8C6-430A-8A60-D3A58DF3719A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090315125043.GE27356@rumble.net> This one time, at band camp, Anna Milanowicz wrote: > I've given up on those a long time ago. That doesn't mean we don't eat > meat, but it does mean that it's sourced selectively, and not in great > quantities. We're lucky to have a couple of organic butchers in our > area. Also, whenever it's the season, biodynamic lamb gets purchased en > bulk, and shared among friends. Once you seek out your sources, it's not > that hard to avoid the Coles meat isles... First purchase after building my shed/office out in the garden later this year is to be a deep freeze for exactly this purpose. I'm planning on buying whole animals in league with a few others (the same denizens as in our fruit & veg buying co-op). Having read In Defence of Food*, I've decided to try and go organic on meat and milk, but finding both quite hard. Meat because you have to plan ahead and we have the puniest freezer. Milk because there's only a couple of places you can buy it and it's the ultimate perishable, so doesn't do with buying ahead. Dunno the solution to milk. * In Defence of Food: An Eater's Manifesto http://www.michaelpollan.com/indefense.php To summarise the key points: avoid food that makes health claims (like "trans fat free" on margarine, when there's never been trans fats in butter but they're also not putting novel ingredients in butter because it's the latest oat bran/omega 3/probiotics fad), an examination of how bastardised our food system has become, and an attack on the reductive nature of nutritionism. I strongly recommend this book. -- Rev Simon Rumble www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Geeks need vacations too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ "Call me a cynic, but for me "much more stable than the last version of Windows" is not exactly a ringing endorsement." - James Riden From anna.e.milan at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 05:31:24 2009 From: anna.e.milan at gmail.com (Anna Milanowicz) Date: Mon Mar 16 05:31:32 2009 Subject: [eclectika] "Enjoy life while you can. Because if you're lucky it's going to be 20 years before it hits the fan." Message-ID: A sobering interview with James Lovelock http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2008/mar/01/scienceofclimatechange.climatechange From jamie at goatforce5.org Mon Mar 16 11:11:25 2009 From: jamie at goatforce5.org (Jamie Wilson) Date: Mon Mar 16 11:11:39 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Kangaroo meat In-Reply-To: <37045248-B8C6-430A-8A60-D3A58DF3719A@gmail.com> References: <53CDE4EB-979F-47E1-A5A0-BD5BFD9FF51B@gmail.com> <20090314082826.GA14854@rumble.net> <20090315061234.GA24507@rumble.net> <37045248-B8C6-430A-8A60-D3A58DF3719A@gmail.com> Message-ID: <669EA2BF-ED11-4EBE-924B-618B22B8F61D@goatforce5.org> On 15-Mar-09, at 8:01 AM, Anna Milanowicz wrote: > Once you seek out your sources, it's not that hard to avoid the > Coles meat isles... Hmm - guilt free death is tasty! Nyom nyom nyom! The pdf'ed article says 100% of dependent young die. Really? 100% is quite high. There's never been a single exception to that? ...j From msjaye at msjaye.com Tue Mar 17 00:14:07 2009 From: msjaye at msjaye.com (Jaye Gallagher) Date: Tue Mar 17 01:14:15 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Intelligent Design Sorting Algorithm. Message-ID: <49BF319F.7080404@msjaye.com> Outdoes mergesort. :) http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/intelligentdesignsort.html Jaye. From ralf at muhlberger.com Thu Mar 19 18:02:06 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Thu Mar 19 18:02:16 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Ray Gun desk pen Message-ID: <1A1531D0-920F-468D-BE1B-A9CEE94893C1@muhlberger.com> Here's a pen that I suspect will appeal to many of the list's readers... http://tinyurl.com/cr4ryj ZAP Ralf From jamie at goatforce5.org Tue Mar 24 08:42:26 2009 From: jamie at goatforce5.org (Jamie Wilson) Date: Tue Mar 24 08:42:36 2009 Subject: [eclectika] lightning doesn't strike twice... Message-ID: ...but atom bombs do: "A 93-year-old Japanese man has become the first person to be certified as a survivor of both US atomic bombings at the end of the second world war, officials said today." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/24/nuclear-bomb-survivor-japan From loch at pobox.com Wed Mar 25 04:52:54 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Wed Mar 25 04:53:00 2009 Subject: [eclectika] online lectures Message-ID: The first has just started doing the rounds, the other is like, so totally old, but I stuck it in for completeness http://academicearth.org/ plus http://www.ted.com/ also http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm From simon at internode.com.au Wed Mar 25 22:08:00 2009 From: simon at internode.com.au (Simon Hackett) Date: Wed Mar 25 22:08:15 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Mind The Gap Message-ID: <134D704B-36C6-4B42-910B-E5982B7B87D7@internode.com.au> http://www.news.com.au/travel/gallery/0,23607,5038127-5007153,00.html# From loch at pobox.com Wed Mar 25 22:54:20 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Wed Mar 25 22:54:28 2009 Subject: [eclectika] [Fwd: texas border watch] Message-ID: <1238039660.5236.0.camel@localhost> -------- Forwarded Message -------- It?s the border-hopping game that anyone can play: The United States has unveiled an unlikely weapon in its battle against drugs gangs and illegal immigrants at the Texas-Mexico border ? pub-goers in Australia. The drinkers are the most far-flung of a sizeable army of hi-tech foot soldiers recruited to assist the border protection effort ? So far, more than 100,000 web users have signed up online to become virtual border patrol deputies, according to Don Reay, executive director of the Texas Border Sheriffs? Coalition, which represents 20 counties where illegal crossings and drugs and weapons smuggling are rife. ?We had folks send an email saying, in good Australian fashion, ?Hey mate, we?ve been watching your border for you from the pub in Australia?,? he said. Commence watching here http://www.texasborderwatch.com/ From simon at rumble.net Thu Mar 26 01:05:55 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Rev Simon Rumble) Date: Thu Mar 26 01:06:00 2009 Subject: [eclectika] [Fwd: texas border watch] In-Reply-To: <1238039660.5236.0.camel@localhost> References: <1238039660.5236.0.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20090326060555.GK553@rumble.net> This one time, at band camp, Andrew Loch wrote: > Commence watching here > http://www.texasborderwatch.com/ Ahhh this is like an app called ChumbySpy. It rotates amongst random security webcams. Apparently there's a few brands of net-connected camera that have common URL styles and so they can be searched and collected automagically. It's freakishly addictive, in a voyeuristic kinda way. http://www.chumby.com/guide/widget/ChumbySpy -- Rev Simon Rumble www.rumble.net The Tourist Engineer Because geeks travel too. http://engineer.openguides.org/ "I'm fairly sure they took porn off the Internet there'd only be one web site left and it'd be called 'bring back the porn'" - Dr Cox, Scrubs Season 3 Episode 4 From darryl.rosin at gmail.com Mon Mar 30 22:48:49 2009 From: darryl.rosin at gmail.com (Darryl Rosin) Date: Mon Mar 30 22:48:55 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Trickle-down economics explained Message-ID: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/reaganomics_finally_trickles_down "HAZELWOOD, MO?Twenty-six years after Ronald Reagan first set his controversial fiscal policies into motion, the deceased president's massive tax cuts for the ultrarich at last trickled all the way down to deliver their bounty, in the form of a $10 bonus, to Hazelwood, MO car-wash attendant Frank Kellener..." d