From loch at pobox.com Thu Oct 1 18:17:45 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Thu Oct 1 18:19:54 2009 Subject: [eclectika] the guardian open platform Message-ID: http://www.guardian.co.uk/open-platform/faq What is the Open Platform? The Open Platform is a suite of services that enables partners to build applications with the Guardian. The first two products released as part of the platform are the Content API and the Data Store. The Content API is a mechanism for selecting and collecting Guardian content. The Data Store is a directory of important and useful data sets curated by Guardian journalists. Additional Open Platform services will be available in the future, all aimed at helping our partners build better applications with the Guardian. Why is the Guardian doing this? The Guardian has a history of innovation and openness with its digital business. This is the next step in that evolution. The Open Platform aims to make the Guardian a useful resource to partners all around the globe who want to leverage the value the Guardian can bring to their business. What can I make? You can make whatever you want as long as you adhere to our Terms and Conditions. Some examples include ApiMaps.org, Cass Sculpture Foundation and Content Tagger. etc From jodie.taylor at griffith.edu.au Thu Oct 1 19:02:01 2009 From: jodie.taylor at griffith.edu.au (Jodie Taylor) Date: Thu Oct 1 19:01:05 2009 Subject: [eclectika] AUTO: Jodie Taylor is out of the office. (returning 05/10/2009) Message-ID: I am out of the office until 05/10/2009. I am on leave until October 5th 2009, therfore I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent matters relating to the Centre for Public Culture and Ideas, please contact our Centre Manager, Ms Sarah Gornall: s.gornall@griffith.edu.au Note: This is an automated response to your message "[eclectika] the guardian open platform" sent on 2/10/2009 9:17:45 AM. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. From nick at nick.on.net Fri Oct 2 10:36:25 2009 From: nick at nick.on.net (Nick Morrison) Date: Fri Oct 2 10:36:39 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Internet gold Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc -- Nick Morrison From andy.adamsmoran at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 12:36:31 2009 From: andy.adamsmoran at gmail.com (Andy Adams-Moran) Date: Fri Oct 2 12:36:54 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Internet gold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Nick! Glorious and inspiring. Now to finish rewatching Cosmos on Netflix-enabled blu-ray player ... On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Nick Morrison wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc > > -- > Nick Morrison > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > From woody at wudee.net Fri Oct 2 22:03:49 2009 From: woody at wudee.net (Andrew Wood) Date: Fri Oct 2 22:04:04 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Internet gold In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c2c94740910022003j12ddc435s8ce5354dbadae323@mail.gmail.com> Whoop Ohhh.... That is quite something... I can't imagine how this would seem to someone who wasn't a Carl-o-phile I fess up to having bought the Cosmos series on dvd - online in a nostalgic button-clicking haze barely a tick of the cosmic clock ago... birds... lots of birds... especially birds... On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Andy Adams-Moran wrote: > Thank you Nick! Glorious and inspiring. Now to finish rewatching > Cosmos on Netflix-enabled blu-ray player ... > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Nick Morrison wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc > > > > -- > > Nick Morrison > > _______________________________________________ > > eclectika mailing list > > eclectika@wudee.net > > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091006/68720f99/attachment.htm From subs at phatpad.com.au Wed Oct 7 22:08:54 2009 From: subs at phatpad.com.au (Nathen Street) Date: Wed Oct 7 22:09:04 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Berlin. 20 years without a wall Message-ID: Berlin celebrates 20 years since the wall came down with giant marionettes http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/10/the_berlin_reunion.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091008/38c6357f/attachment.htm From dmj1977 at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 07:53:39 2009 From: dmj1977 at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson) Date: Thu Oct 8 07:53:54 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Carl Sagan Was a Stoner?!? Message-ID: well, colour me shocked and surprised! http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/little-known-fact-astronomer-carl-sagan-was-a-stoner/ Apparently, a quote from the man himself: "When I?m high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time. Many but not all my cannabis trips have somewhere in them a symbolism significant to me which I won?t attempt to describe here, a kind of mandala embossed on the high. Free-associating to this mandala, both visually and as plays on words, has produced a very rich array of insights." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091008/dcf2e069/attachment.htm From flippy at internode.on.net Thu Oct 8 17:51:28 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Thu Oct 8 17:51:41 2009 Subject: [eclectika] ralph lauren photoshop disaster Message-ID: <003c01ca4869$e23069b0$a6913d10$@on.net> I feel it my civic duty to post this: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html :) From liz.willis at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 18:30:45 2009 From: liz.willis at gmail.com (Liz Willis) Date: Thu Oct 8 18:30:55 2009 Subject: [eclectika] ralph lauren photoshop disaster In-Reply-To: <003c01ca4869$e23069b0$a6913d10$@on.net> References: <003c01ca4869$e23069b0$a6913d10$@on.net> Message-ID: Thank you Ben. Civic duty noted. When I saw this Ralph Lauren thing it took me back to this which I feel is my civic duty to re-post http://jezebel.com/297987/america-ferreras-glamour-treatment-revisited On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ben Dixon wrote: > I feel it my civic duty to post this: > > http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html > > :) > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091008/9c255f51/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Thu Oct 8 18:57:42 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Thu Oct 8 18:57:49 2009 Subject: [eclectika] ralph lauren photoshop disaster In-Reply-To: References: <003c01ca4869$e23069b0$a6913d10$@on.net> Message-ID: still, this is hopeful http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/08/germanys-top-fashion.html On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Liz Willis wrote: Thank you Ben. Civic duty noted. When I saw this Ralph Lauren thing it took me back to this which I feel is my civic duty to re-post http://jezebel.com/297987/america-ferreras-glamour-treatment-revisited On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Ben Dixon wrote: I feel it my civic duty to post this: http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html :) ?_______________________________________________ eclectika mailing list eclectika@wudee.net http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From phillyidol at gmail.com Mon Oct 12 03:59:51 2009 From: phillyidol at gmail.com (Phil Stocks) Date: Mon Oct 12 04:00:12 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Nietzsche Family Circus Message-ID: <14884290-3694-43AE-95CC-5643C61ECD71@gmail.com> http://www.losanjealous.com/nfc/ From les at greemo.com Mon Oct 12 14:20:37 2009 From: les at greemo.com (Les Green) Date: Mon Oct 12 14:20:50 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Fun! Message-ID: I stumbled across this while feedsurfing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivg56TX9kWI&feature=player_embedded Les -- You have a finite life, if you work all the time for money you are poor. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091013/c5eccdf0/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Mon Oct 12 16:40:45 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Mon Oct 12 16:41:19 2009 Subject: [eclectika] 50 years of space trips visualised Message-ID: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/10/12/50-trippy-years-of-space-trips/ From loch at pobox.com Mon Oct 12 19:40:58 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Mon Oct 12 19:41:03 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan Message-ID: for those of you with more money than you deserve to have http://gizmodo.com/5379890 From loch at pobox.com Mon Oct 12 22:16:05 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Mon Oct 12 22:16:18 2009 Subject: [eclectika] world's most beautiful object Message-ID: really? http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/12/fireplace-named-worl.html though the competition doesn't sound thrilling. sure it's nice, but is this really the best humanity can do? Pulchra calls itself "the first beauty contest devoted exclusively to objects." Other candidates included a Philips TV, a Sony Ericsson phone, and a diamond. maybe it's satirical and I was just too lazy to read further. dunno lochy From phillyidol at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 00:52:38 2009 From: phillyidol at gmail.com (Phil Stocks) Date: Tue Oct 13 00:52:55 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: But do you still sound like a dalek if you talk through it? ? On 13/10/2009, at 10:40 AM, Lochy wrote: > for those of you with more money than you deserve to have > > http://gizmodo.com/5379890 > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From loch at pobox.com Tue Oct 13 00:55:34 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Tue Oct 13 00:55:49 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, another reason not to waste your money on it. though for that price they could include a ring modulator so you could On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Phil Stocks wrote: But do you still sound like a dalek if you talk through it? ? On 13/10/2009, at 10:40 AM, Lochy wrote: > for those of you with more money than you deserve to have > > http://gizmodo.com/5379890 > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika _______________________________________________ eclectika mailing list eclectika@wudee.net http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From andy.adamsmoran at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 12:10:33 2009 From: andy.adamsmoran at gmail.com (Andy Adams-Moran) Date: Tue Oct 13 12:10:58 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, as long as it could do standard, gold, and Davros. On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Andrew Loch wrote: > No, another reason not to waste your money on it. though for that price > they could include a ring modulator so you could > > > > > > On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Phil Stocks wrote: > > > ? But do you still sound like a dalek if you talk through it? > > ? ? > > ? On 13/10/2009, at 10:40 AM, Lochy wrote: > > ? > for those of you with more money than you deserve to have > ? > > ? > http://gizmodo.com/5379890 > ? > _______________________________________________ > ? > eclectika mailing list > ? > eclectika@wudee.net > ? > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > ? _______________________________________________ > ? eclectika mailing list > ? eclectika@wudee.net > ? http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > From ahortonart at earthlink.net Tue Oct 13 13:35:39 2009 From: ahortonart at earthlink.net (Andrew Horton) Date: Tue Oct 13 13:35:47 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan Message-ID: <12035640.1255458939786.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> And, FINALLY, a fan that beards wouldn't get caught in. Oh Moran, if only you'd waited... -----Original Message----- >From: Andy Adams-Moran >Sent: Oct 13, 2009 1:10 PM >To: loch@pobox.com >Cc: eclectika@wudee.net >Subject: Re: [eclectika] dyson's fanless fan > >Well, as long as it could do standard, gold, and Davros. > >On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Andrew Loch wrote: >> No, another reason not to waste your money on it. though for that price >> they could include a ring modulator so you could >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Phil Stocks wrote: >> >> >> ? But do you still sound like a dalek if you talk through it? >> >> ? ? >> >> ? On 13/10/2009, at 10:40 AM, Lochy wrote: >> >> ? > for those of you with more money than you deserve to have >> ? > >> ? > http://gizmodo.com/5379890 >> ? > _______________________________________________ >> ? > eclectika mailing list >> ? > eclectika@wudee.net >> ? > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> ? _______________________________________________ >> ? eclectika mailing list >> ? eclectika@wudee.net >> ? http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> ?_______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> > _______________________________________________ >eclectika mailing list >eclectika@wudee.net >http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From anna.e.milan at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 20:54:19 2009 From: anna.e.milan at gmail.com (Anna Milanowicz) Date: Tue Oct 13 20:54:38 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Giant Industrial Gasworks Turned into Domed Indoor Town Message-ID: Have any eclectikans been there? Is it as jawdropping as it looks in these photos? http://dornob.com/giant-industrial-gasworks-turned-into-domed-indoor-town/ Why can't we have disused silo towns in Australia? ;) It would be so cool... From simon at rumble.net Sun Oct 18 19:03:13 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Simon Rumble) Date: Sun Oct 18 19:03:18 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid Message-ID: <1234ca4a0910181703u216541c4me99e70826c3caa83@mail.gmail.com> http://dornob.com/mural-artwork-on-acid-surreal-optical-illusion-architecture/ -- Simon Rumble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091020/255dc174/attachment.htm From flippy at internode.on.net Mon Oct 19 18:48:10 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Mon Oct 19 18:48:15 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid In-Reply-To: <1234ca4a0910181703u216541c4me99e70826c3caa83@mail.gmail.com> References: <1234ca4a0910181703u216541c4me99e70826c3caa83@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002b01ca5116$9ddf7c00$d99e7400$@on.net> >From a link on that page: http://dornob.com/camouflage-female-forms-make-beautiful-bodies-of-art/ also very cool From: eclectika-bounces@wudee.net [mailto:eclectika-bounces@wudee.net] On Behalf Of Simon Rumble Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 11:03 AM To: eclectika Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid http://dornob.com/mural-artwork-on-acid-surreal-optical-illusion-architecture/ -- Simon Rumble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091019/d4476943/attachment.htm From ralf at muhlberger.com Tue Oct 20 00:59:37 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Tue Oct 20 00:59:49 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid In-Reply-To: <002b01ca5116$9ddf7c00$d99e7400$@on.net> References: <1234ca4a0910181703u216541c4me99e70826c3caa83@mail.gmail.com> <002b01ca5116$9ddf7c00$d99e7400$@on.net> Message-ID: <7C634534-2F63-445B-A87F-BEE6C6B53026@muhlberger.com> And then there's also this related link on urban camouflage: http://dornob.com/the-contemporary-art-of-commercial-camouflage/ and these two prop hunt game mods http://www.amtstudios.com/mods/prop-hunt.php http://tinyurl.com/ykak7ka which should be combined into an awesome urban physical space game... Ralf On 20/10/2009, at 9:48 AM, Ben Dixon wrote: > From a link on that page: > > http://dornob.com/camouflage-female-forms-make-beautiful-bodies-of- > art/ > > also very cool > > From: eclectika-bounces@wudee.net [mailto:eclectika- > bounces@wudee.net] On Behalf Of Simon Rumble > Sent: Monday, 19 October 2009 11:03 AM > To: eclectika > Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid > > http://dornob.com/mural-artwork-on-acid-surreal-optical-illusion-architecture/ > > -- > Simon Rumble > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From justien at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 04:02:13 2009 From: justien at gmail.com (jstn) Date: Tue Oct 20 04:02:30 2009 Subject: [eclectika] google wave - does anyone have some invites? Message-ID: I'd like to get into it ... Do any eclecticans have google wave invites? Can send ableton schwag as trade. Cheers! Justine -- the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual From justien at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 04:17:46 2009 From: justien at gmail.com (jstn) Date: Tue Oct 20 04:17:56 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Mural Artwork on Acid In-Reply-To: <002601ca5116$92b00520$b8100f60$@on.net> References: <1234ca4a0910181703u216541c4me99e70826c3caa83@mail.gmail.com> <002601ca5116$92b00520$b8100f60$@on.net> Message-ID: 2009/10/20 Ben Dixon : > From a link on that page: > > > > http://dornob.com/camouflage-female-forms-make-beautiful-bodies-of-art/ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Women as wallpaper ... it certainly expresses the "beauty, fragility and adaptability of the female form", but not perhaps in the way the journalist intended ;) You could do the same thing with babies, piglets or manx cats! Acutally, I rekkin it's be pretty good with manx cats, tho they might not like to stay in the same place for long enough to be painted or photographed. chiers! ix_hel From justien at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 13:40:53 2009 From: justien at gmail.com (jstn) Date: Tue Oct 20 13:41:04 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg Message-ID: windows7 party Oo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ -- the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual From flippy at internode.on.net Tue Oct 20 16:30:17 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Tue Oct 20 16:30:26 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ADE2BE9.4080409@internode.on.net> On 21/10/09 5:40 AM, jstn wrote: > windows7 party Oo > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ > > i got to about 50 secs before i was seized by gut cramps and severe psychological distress. please tell me that its a joke, and that further in, all four of them are slaughtered by ninjas, and that godzilla roasts the vaio before destroying the house completely and utterly... From les at greemo.com Tue Oct 20 16:47:53 2009 From: les at greemo.com (Les Green) Date: Tue Oct 20 16:48:01 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg In-Reply-To: <4ADE2BE9.4080409@internode.on.net> References: <4ADE2BE9.4080409@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Unfortunately, I skipped through to further bits and there was still the same dribble from the beginning. I too was hoping for some twist in the plot, but instead sat slack-jawed by the disparity between the MS marketing machine's and my understanding of the windows 7 target market. Presuming that vid was produced by MS. Please, someone tell me I missed something while skipping through that. 2009/10/21 Ben Dixon > On 21/10/09 5:40 AM, jstn wrote: > >> windows7 party Oo >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ >> >> >> > i got to about 50 secs before i was seized by gut cramps and severe > psychological distress. please tell me that its a joke, and that further > in, all four of them are slaughtered by ninjas, and that godzilla roasts the > vaio before destroying the house completely and utterly... > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -- You have a finite life, if you work all the time for money you are poor. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091021/e7903fcc/attachment.htm From justien at gmail.com Tue Oct 20 16:52:22 2009 From: justien at gmail.com (jstn) Date: Tue Oct 20 16:52:31 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg In-Reply-To: References: <4ADE2BE9.4080409@internode.on.net> Message-ID: nah, you missed nothing. It's just creepy and valiumised. I think this is not even as good as the Microsoft sing-along thing. That software is fun, at least. 2009/10/20 Les Green : > Unfortunately, I skipped through to further bits and there was still the > same dribble from the beginning. > > I too was hoping for some twist in the plot, but instead sat slack-jawed by > the disparity between the MS marketing machine's and my understanding of the > windows 7 target market. Presuming that vid was produced by MS. > > Please, someone tell me I missed something while skipping through that. > > 2009/10/21 Ben Dixon >> >> On 21/10/09 5:40 AM, jstn wrote: >>> >>> windows7 party Oo >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ >>> >>> >> >> i got to about 50 secs before i was seized by gut cramps and severe >> psychological distress. ?please tell me that its a joke, and that further >> in, all four of them are slaughtered by ninjas, and that godzilla roasts the >> vaio before destroying the house completely and utterly... >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > > -- > You have a finite life, if you work all the time for money you are poor. > > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > -- the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual From ralf at muhlberger.com Tue Oct 20 19:39:00 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Tue Oct 20 19:39:07 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BB9D27E-61F4-4BBE-BE74-C6972464C82F@muhlberger.com> To feel better after this, watch the videos of the new Apple gear: a 27" iMac and a multi-touch mouse (which looks absolutely awesome!) http://www.apple.com/au/imac/the-new-imac/ http://www.apple.com/au/magicmouse/#hero-video Ralf On 21/10/2009, at 4:40 AM, jstn wrote: > windows7 party Oo > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ > > -- > the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From keith.duddy at gmail.com Wed Oct 21 01:06:08 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Wed Oct 21 01:06:19 2009 Subject: [eclectika] zomg In-Reply-To: <6BB9D27E-61F4-4BBE-BE74-C6972464C82F@muhlberger.com> References: <6BB9D27E-61F4-4BBE-BE74-C6972464C82F@muhlberger.com> Message-ID: Thankfully I saw all the replies before I got here, so I just watched the first 10 seconds to get a flavour of the dross. Why, WHY do you want to hurt us like that Juz? |< 2009/10/21 Ralf Muhlberger > > To feel better after this, watch the videos of the new Apple gear: a 27" > iMac and a multi-touch mouse (which looks absolutely awesome!) > > http://www.apple.com/au/imac/the-new-imac/ > http://www.apple.com/au/magicmouse/#hero-video > > Ralf > > > > On 21/10/2009, at 4:40 AM, jstn wrote: > > windows7 party Oo >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ >> >> -- >> the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091022/aebc87b0/attachment.htm From flippy at internode.on.net Thu Oct 22 16:38:46 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Thu Oct 22 16:38:52 2009 Subject: [eclectika] World of Goo! cost: up to you... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE0D0E6.6050500@internode.on.net> World of Goo kind of like a 21st century lemmings cross physics puzzler. sort of. they are having a 'sale' on it at the moment. The price: whatever you want to pay. :) but only until the end of sunday. nice they have mac,linux and win versions too. http://www.worldofgoo.com/ i love the pay what you think model. makes piracy irrelevant (and the devs at least get something for each download) they are doing an ongoing survey of how much people are choosing to pay, and their reasons for the amount. the results are public, including people's comments. http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=MZpIFVRQn99e_2fJukiNVWR9Rm3Xg1MSQ85QQk09BNH3s_3d From subs at phatpad.com.au Fri Oct 23 18:42:26 2009 From: subs at phatpad.com.au (Nathen Street) Date: Fri Oct 23 18:42:43 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Google Chrome - Mac Message-ID: So a developer release of Chrome for Mac is available -> http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_dev.html?dl=mac (OS 10.5.6 or later to run) Its been pretty stable, and it?s fast. There isn?t any ad blocker, but I found http://glimmerblocker.org/ which is a system wide proxy that blocks ads for pretty much any application that uses the web. Another proxy http://www.privoxy.org/ does the same thing, but you?ll need to do a bit of command line magic to make it work. Enjoy, Nathen. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20091024/f4b99a4d/attachment.htm From darryl.rosin at gmail.com Sun Oct 25 17:45:03 2009 From: darryl.rosin at gmail.com (Darryl Rosin) Date: Sun Oct 25 17:45:18 2009 Subject: [eclectika] World of Goo! cost: up to you... In-Reply-To: <4AE0D0E6.6050500@internode.on.net> References: <4AE0D0E6.6050500@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <2A133E4C-B2B1-44F9-BBC1-773ADA8B811C@gmail.com> On 23/10/2009, at 7:38 AM, Ben Dixon wrote: > > i love the pay what you think model. Funnily enough (or not) I hate it with a passion. It's like haggling run by passive-aggressives. I don't like taking advantage of people and I expect, as an absolute minimum level of common decency, that if I ask 'how much' you will tell me the value of the object or service based on your determination of costs and the margin required to keep you in business. If the price suits me I will buy it, if not I won't. I'm not going to insult you by asserting that this product or service is worth less than your inputs, and I am definitely not going to try and guess what your costs were, let alone what your required markup is. grumble grumble d From ralf at muhlberger.com Sun Oct 25 19:37:57 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Sun Oct 25 19:38:04 2009 Subject: [eclectika] World of Goo! cost: up to you... In-Reply-To: <2A133E4C-B2B1-44F9-BBC1-773ADA8B811C@gmail.com> References: <4AE0D0E6.6050500@internode.on.net> <2A133E4C-B2B1-44F9-BBC1-773ADA8B811C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <487A3C8A-DD04-4DA6-86F5-E09301DDF279@muhlberger.com> >> i love the pay what you think model. > > Funnily enough (or not) I hate it with a passion. It's like haggling > run by passive-aggressives. > > I don't like taking advantage of people and I expect, as an absolute > minimum level of common decency, that if I ask 'how much' you will > tell me the value of the object or service based on your > determination of costs and the margin required to keep you in > business. If the price suits me I will buy it, if not I won't. I'm > not going to insult you by asserting that this product or service is > worth less than your inputs, and I am definitely not going to try > and guess what your costs were, let alone what your required markup > is. That system works where the production creates a set number of resource units with a linear cost relationship, but breaks down when supply and demand are as dynamic as they are in software sales, and when the initial cost of production has such a limited relationship to the cost of reproduction. The game costs $X to create. Each copy of the game costs $Y to copy for a sale. (Assuming a fixed cost to simplify things.) case 1: K people may buy the game at cost $L, for a total net profit of (K * L) - (X + (K*Y)) case 2: M people may buy the game at cost $N, where L <> N, for a total net profit of (M * N) - (X + (M*Y)) Which case is more profitable is an equation that the developers can't solve before selling begins without insight into customer attitude. You can try to estimate that based on similar game success, or your own hopes about how great your game is, or many other things. The pay what you think model engages with consumers more directly without assumptions. That said, the developers did add on their website that the usual price for the game is $20. This is, to me, what the famous quote about information wanting to be free is about: "On the one hand information wants to be expensive, because it's so valuable. The right information in the right place just changes your life. On the other hand, information wants to be free, because the cost of getting it out is getting lower and lower all the time. So you have these two fighting against each other." - Stewart Brand, Hackers' Conference, 1984. as is Walter Benjamin's 1935 essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction". Ralf From flippy at internode.on.net Mon Oct 26 06:26:47 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Mon Oct 26 06:26:59 2009 Subject: [eclectika] World of Goo! cost: up to you... In-Reply-To: <2A133E4C-B2B1-44F9-BBC1-773ADA8B811C@gmail.com> References: <4AE0D0E6.6050500@internode.on.net> <2A133E4C-B2B1-44F9-BBC1-773ADA8B811C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE58777.5090503@internode.on.net> yes but no... as an artist who does commission work, I hate the inevitable question from a client : "so... how much?" It causes me way too much angst. how much do i value my time, experience, artistic skill, etc.. impossible stuff to put value on. but as Ralf pointed out, this is a different scenario. when i work, X hours = 1 item to sell. for software, X hours = an infinite number of 'items' to sell. so its not about ripping anyone off. if you have ever run any pirated software, you make a small step towards validating the 'pay what you want' model, just by the fact that if a persons options are (a) pirate the software and the devs get nothing, or (b) give the devs something (anything at all) and they come out ahead, then the vast majority will give something. and something is definately better than nothing. I think this is because (a lot of, if not most) people recognise either: that if the devs dont get enough money to eat, then they wont write software, or (crediting them for some sense of 'rightness') that this is an exchange. a very open one, but an exchange nevertheless. so they will give something, and enjoy using the software with a clean conscience. or both of those. as Ralf also pointed out, the publisher is playing a meta game. do i price high and thus get fewer sales with a high profit margin, or price low with a small profit margin and go for volume. depends on the potential size of the market. pricing high also means that a larger number of sales will be lost completely to pirating. the bottom line is reflected in the stats, and the words of the devs of W.O.G. themselves. they have sold a massively larger number of units, for a lower average price, but they are well ahead of where they were when they were using the standard fixed price model. not only that, but sales of their other software has also received a boost too, probably from the increased traffic to their website. ask yourself: a) have i ever used any pirated software? b) would I have paid for it if it were cheaper? On 26/10/09 9:45 AM, Darryl Rosin wrote: > > On 23/10/2009, at 7:38 AM, Ben Dixon wrote: >> >> i love the pay what you think model. > > Funnily enough (or not) I hate it with a passion. It's like haggling > run by passive-aggressives. > > I don't like taking advantage of people and I expect, as an absolute > minimum level of common decency, that if I ask 'how much' you will > tell me the value of the object or service based on your determination > of costs and the margin required to keep you in business. If the > price suits me I will buy it, if not I won't. I'm not going to insult > you by asserting that this product or service is worth less than your > inputs, and I am definitely not going to try and guess what your costs > were, let alone what your required markup is. > > grumble grumble > > d > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From keith.duddy at gmail.com Wed Oct 28 23:27:23 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Wed Oct 28 23:27:36 2009 Subject: [eclectika] LOL Cats Message-ID: I _hate_ LOL CATS (do you hear me Dave Monkey!) But this made me snicker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swt4tCzuCxg |< -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Here's stuff: http://kitty35.com/english/ http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/23/hello-kitty-35th-ann-1.html And just for old times sake - there's a link to the alt.sex.hello-kitty FAQ: http://groups.google.com/group/misc.misc/browse_thread/thread/b435c47695e8e674/f3b9a90d2134cbb5?lnk=gst&q=faq&rnum=2&fwc=1&pli=1 with answers to all the important questions... regarding her mouth... and sex... Woody. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Was everyone else also thinking "It's the Luggage!" ? On 30/10/2009, at 3:39 PM, Ben Dixon wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsTKAtBBkfU > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika