From woody at wudee.net Tue Sep 1 00:16:37 2009 From: woody at wudee.net (Andrew Wood) Date: Tue Sep 1 00:16:45 2009 Subject: [eclectika] shiny balls of mud... Message-ID: <3c2c94740908312216j38057cfdldbcdc4c51315663e@mail.gmail.com> http://www.dorodango.com/ what else can I say? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090831/7c7c2240/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Tue Sep 1 00:26:41 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Tue Sep 1 00:26:51 2009 Subject: [eclectika] shiny balls of mud... In-Reply-To: <3c2c94740908312216j38057cfdldbcdc4c51315663e@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2c94740908312216j38057cfdldbcdc4c51315663e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: great stuff, I remember seeing this, the phenomenon not the webpage, back in DSTC days. Mythbusters also had a segment on it when they took on the myth that "you can't polish a turd". They used lion turd and elephant turd I think. And just mentioned this technique, using mud not turds, to my daughter yesterday. so thanks for the link woody. lochy On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Andrew Wood wrote: http://www.dorodango.com/ what else can I say? From jodie.taylor at griffith.edu.au Tue Sep 1 01:01:54 2009 From: jodie.taylor at griffith.edu.au (Jodie Taylor) Date: Tue Sep 1 01:01:07 2009 Subject: [eclectika] AUTO: Jodie Taylor is out of the office. (returning 02/09/2009) Message-ID: I am out of the office until 02/09/2009. I am currently in Berlin on a research trip and I am unable to check my email regularly. Therefore, I will respond to your message when I return to the office on 2nd Spetember 2009. For urgent matters relating to the Centre for Public Culture and Ideas, please contact or Centre Manager, Ms Sarah Gornall: s.gornall@griffith.edu.au Note: This is an automated response to your message "Re: [eclectika] shiny balls of mud..." sent on 1/09/2009 3:26:41 PM. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. From jamie at goatforce5.org Thu Sep 3 09:09:40 2009 From: jamie at goatforce5.org (Jamie Wilson) Date: Thu Sep 3 09:09:52 2009 Subject: [eclectika] homes from recycled materials Message-ID: <955E07FD-FB54-440D-891E-CF5B1563E946@goatforce5.org> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/03/garden/03recycle.html check the slide show. the houses are super pretty. From flippy at internode.on.net Sun Sep 6 20:54:59 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Sun Sep 6 20:55:06 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Neurosonics Audiomedical Labs Message-ID: <00bd01ca2f5e$3579da90$a06d8fb0$@on.net> http://www.neurosonicsaudiomedical.com/ From loch at pobox.com Mon Sep 7 16:50:01 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Mon Sep 7 16:54:30 2009 Subject: [eclectika] what sort of geek/nerd/dork are you Message-ID: http://mashable.com/2009/09/07/nerd-venn-diagram/ From loch at pobox.com Mon Sep 7 19:45:11 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Mon Sep 7 19:48:21 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Aboxolypse..how to be anti-green Message-ID: Some real industry leaders here! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/29/aboxalypse_now/ and follow the links as well From flippy at internode.on.net Mon Sep 7 19:51:40 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Mon Sep 7 19:51:47 2009 Subject: [eclectika] skating in the sink Message-ID: <022501ca301e$87795b70$966c1250$@on.net> http://www.woostercollective.com/2009/09/shit_were_diggin_my_dog_sighs_keyhole_bo.html From phillyidol at gmail.com Tue Sep 8 16:40:48 2009 From: phillyidol at gmail.com (Phil Stocks) Date: Tue Sep 8 16:41:03 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Eternal Earth-bound Pets Message-ID: http://eternal-earthbound-pets.com/Home_Page.html From loch at pobox.com Tue Sep 8 18:21:42 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Tue Sep 8 18:25:31 2009 Subject: [eclectika] critical manners Message-ID: an alternative to critical mass...though it doesn't make for gripping video :-) http://this.org/blog/2009/09/04/critical-manners-vancouver/ From subs at phatpad.com.au Sun Sep 13 20:28:30 2009 From: subs at phatpad.com.au (Nathen Street) Date: Sun Sep 13 20:28:52 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Pears grown in the shape of Buddha Message-ID: http://www.brogui.com/2009/09/01/como-fazer-peras-em-formato-de-buda/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090914/99aaa7ae/attachment.htm From drjon at pacific.net.au Sun Sep 13 20:50:43 2009 From: drjon at pacific.net.au (drjon@pacific.net.au) Date: Sun Sep 13 20:50:54 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Pears grown in the shape of Buddha In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1605.124.171.229.227.1252893043.squirrel@wm2.pacific.net.au> Actually, I suspect that's Budai, not the Buddha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai > http://www.brogui.com/2009/09/01/como-fazer-peras-em-formato-de-buda/ > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > From loch at pobox.com Sun Sep 13 23:04:51 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Sun Sep 13 23:09:45 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html From keith.duddy at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 23:12:18 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Mon Sep 14 23:12:29 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which it is possible to choose the gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms of evolution - and in which gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic defect, people still don't get it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot of smart Americans - some of them even Christians. |< 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controversial-for-religious-America.html > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090915/4575db26/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Mon Sep 14 23:15:34 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Mon Sep 14 23:20:47 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising Catholic who gets evolution. lochy On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which it is possible to choose the gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms of evolution - and in which gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic defect, people still don't get it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot of smart Americans - some of them even Christians. |< 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch ---------- Forwarded message ---------- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers ial-for-religious-America.html ?_______________________________________________ eclectika mailing list eclectika@wudee.net http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From keith.duddy at gmail.com Mon Sep 14 23:30:44 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Mon Sep 14 23:30:52 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a bunch of creationist preachers.... |< 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch > I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced > it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up > questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good > ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way > round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. > > Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising > Catholic who gets evolution. > > lochy > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: > > The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll > conducted in February, only 39 > per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " > > Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which > it is possible to choose the > gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms of > evolution - and in which > gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic > defect, people still don't get > it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot of > smart Americans - some of > them even Christians. > > |< > > 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers > ial-for-religious-America.html > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090915/8f42d36c/attachment.htm From keith.duddy at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 00:22:40 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Tue Sep 15 00:22:50 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't say that only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't know what they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, education, church attendance, etc: http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx |< 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy > Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample > collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a > bunch of creationist preachers.... > > |< > > 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch > > I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced >> it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up >> questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good >> ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way >> round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. >> >> Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising >> Catholic who gets evolution. >> >> lochy >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: >> >> The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll >> conducted in February, only 39 >> per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " >> >> Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which >> it is possible to choose the >> gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms >> of evolution - and in which >> gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic >> defect, people still don't get >> it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot >> of smart Americans - some of >> them even Christians. >> >> |< >> >> 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers >> ial-for-religious-America.html >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090915/6b8bcab6/attachment.htm From queazel at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 01:53:30 2009 From: queazel at gmail.com (Michael Norris) Date: Tue Sep 15 01:53:53 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This one's much more scary: http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/Evolution-Creationism-Intelligent-Design.aspx and shows that opinions in the US have been pretty constant for a long time. I blame all those fundamentalist breakfast cereals. -m. On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Keith Duddy wrote: > I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s Birthday, > Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't say that > only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't know what > they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, education, > church attendance, etc: > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx > > |< > > 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy >> >> Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample >> collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a >> bunch of creationist preachers.... >> >> |< >> >> 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch >>> >>> I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced >>> it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up >>> questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good >>> ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way >>> round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. >>> >>> Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising >>> Catholic who gets evolution. >>> >>> lochy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: >>> >>> ? The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll >>> conducted in February, only 39 >>> ? per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " >>> >>> ? Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which >>> it is possible to choose the >>> ? gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms >>> of evolution - and in which >>> ? gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic >>> defect, people still don't get >>> ? it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot >>> of smart Americans - some of >>> ? them even Christians. >>> >>> ? |< >>> >>> ? 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch >>> >>> >>> ? ? ? ? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> >>> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers >>> ? ? ? ? ial-for-religious-America.html >>> ? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ >>> ? ? ? ? eclectika mailing list >>> ? ? ? ? eclectika@wudee.net >>> ? ? ? ? http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >>> >>> >>> >> > > > ?_______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > From loch at pobox.com Tue Sep 15 02:12:47 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Tue Sep 15 02:18:01 2009 Subject: [eclectika] classic books with modern titles Message-ID: http://yourmonkeycalled.com/post/185927647/book-titles-if-they-were-written-today Then: The Wealth of Nations Now: Invisible Hands: The Mysterious Market Forces That Control Our Lives and How to Profit from Them Then: Walden Now: Camping with Myself: Two Years in American Tuscany Then: The Theory of the Leisure Class Now: Buying Out Loud: The Unbelievable Truth About What We Consume and What It Says About Us Then: The Gospel of Matthew Now: 40 Days and a Mule: How One Man Quit His Job and Became the Boss Then: The Prince Now: The Prince (Foreword by Oprah Winfrey) From keith.duddy at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 02:29:30 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Tue Sep 15 02:35:55 2009 Subject: [eclectika] classic books with modern titles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Then: The bible Now: The Idoit's guide to the Jewish and Christian Religions |< 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch > > http://yourmonkeycalled.com/post/185927647/book-titles-if-they-were-written-today > > Then: The Wealth of Nations > Now: Invisible Hands: The Mysterious Market Forces That Control Our Lives > and How to Profit from Them > > Then: Walden > Now: Camping with Myself: Two Years in American Tuscany > > Then: The Theory of the Leisure Class > Now: Buying Out Loud: The Unbelievable Truth About What We Consume and > What It Says About Us > > Then: The Gospel of Matthew > Now: 40 Days and a Mule: How One Man Quit His Job and Became the Boss > > Then: The Prince > Now: The Prince (Foreword by Oprah Winfrey) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090915/8ca11b8f/attachment.htm From ralf at muhlberger.com Tue Sep 15 03:15:27 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Tue Sep 15 03:15:15 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Some things are changing at least - they're getting more weight to throw around http://campfire.theoildrum.com/node/5643 Ralf On 15/09/2009, at 16:53, Michael Norris wrote: > This one's much more scary: > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/Evolution-Creationism-Intelligent-Design.aspx > > and shows that opinions in the US have been pretty constant for a > long time. > I blame all those fundamentalist breakfast cereals. > > -m. > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Keith Duddy > wrote: >> I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s >> Birthday, >> Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't >> say that >> only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't >> know what >> they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, >> education, >> church attendance, etc: >> >> http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx >> >> |< >> >> 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy >>> >>> Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and >>> sample >>> collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked >>> by a >>> bunch of creationist preachers.... >>> >>> |< >>> >>> 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch >>>> >>>> I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that >>>> produced >>>> it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up >>>> questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in >>>> the good >>>> ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the >>>> other way >>>> round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. >>>> >>>> Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a >>>> practising >>>> Catholic who gets evolution. >>>> >>>> lochy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: >>>> >>>> The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup >>>> poll >>>> conducted in February, only 39 >>>> per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " >>>> >>>> Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country >>>> in which >>>> it is possible to choose the >>>> gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the >>>> mechanisms >>>> of evolution - and in which >>>> gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a >>>> genetic >>>> defect, people still don't get >>>> it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I >>>> know a lot >>>> of smart Americans - some of >>>> them even Christians. >>>> >>>> |< >>>> >>>> 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers >>>> ial-for-religious-America.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> eclectika mailing list >>>> eclectika@wudee.net >>>> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090915/209b09a5/attachment.htm From woody at wudee.net Tue Sep 15 20:23:02 2009 From: woody at wudee.net (Andrew Wood) Date: Tue Sep 15 20:23:12 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3c2c94740909151823n3b3d91e0k7eb6b490012f051c@mail.gmail.com> While I'm shocked absolutely, I'm not sure how relatively shocked to be - what are the stats for this kind of question in Aus? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Keith Duddy wrote: > I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s > Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't > say that only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't > know what they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, > education, church attendance, etc: > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx > > |< > > 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy > > Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample >> collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a >> bunch of creationist preachers.... >> >> |< >> >> 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch >> >> I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced >>> it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up >>> questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good >>> ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way >>> round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. >>> >>> Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising >>> Catholic who gets evolution. >>> >>> lochy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: >>> >>> The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll >>> conducted in February, only 39 >>> per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " >>> >>> Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which >>> it is possible to choose the >>> gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms >>> of evolution - and in which >>> gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic >>> defect, people still don't get >>> it?????? 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More people - 43 per cent compared with 28 per cent - preferred science to religion, another 12 per cent were inclined towards a combination of both, while 17 per cent were undecided whether the earth was made in six days or billions of years. The poll, by UMR research for Hawker Britton, found that women, older people, Liberal voters and Queenslanders were less inclined to believe in evolution. People from NSW, people living in the inner cities and those earning over $80,000 preferred evolution as an explanation of how we got here." So the short answer seems to be 28%.... with Queenslanders less likely to be creationists - wow, for once we're more enlightened than the rest of the country (but I suppose the Sydney bible belt skews things quite a lot). And us Scienticians seem to be a large minority (good on ya Michael Lawley for coining that one). |< 2009/9/16 Andrew Wood > While I'm shocked absolutely, I'm not sure how relatively shocked to be - > what are the stats for this kind of question in Aus? > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Keith Duddy wrote: > >> I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s >> Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't >> say that only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't >> know what they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, >> education, church attendance, etc: >> >> http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx >> >> |< >> >> 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy >> >> Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample >>> collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a >>> bunch of creationist preachers.... >>> >>> |< >>> >>> 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch >>> >>> I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced >>>> it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up >>>> questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good >>>> ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way >>>> round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. >>>> >>>> Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising >>>> Catholic who gets evolution. >>>> >>>> lochy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: >>>> >>>> The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll >>>> conducted in February, only 39 >>>> per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " >>>> >>>> Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in >>>> which it is possible to choose the >>>> gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms >>>> of evolution - and in which >>>> gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic >>>> defect, people still don't get >>>> it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot >>>> of smart Americans - some of >>>> them even Christians. >>>> >>>> |< >>>> >>>> 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers >>>> ial-for-religious-America.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> eclectika mailing list >>>> eclectika@wudee.net >>>> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090916/e7a1d8ad/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Tue Sep 15 21:26:09 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Tue Sep 15 21:26:19 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <3c2c94740909151823n3b3d91e0k7eb6b490012f051c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ummm " The poll, by UMR research ... and Queenslanders were less inclined to believe in evolution " doesn't that mean QLDrs are MORE likely to be creationists? Sorry Keith, I don't want that to be true either but am not surprised lochy On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: A quick search reveals: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/27/1098667839167.html "More than a quarter of Australians believe the Bible offers a more likely explanation of the origins of life than evolution, an opinion poll says. More people - 43 per cent compared with 28 per cent - preferred science to religion, another 12 per cent were inclined towards a combination of both, while 17 per cent were undecided whether the earth was made in six days or billions of years. The poll, by UMR research for Hawker Britton, found that women, older people, Liberal voters and Queenslanders were less inclined to believe in evolution. People from NSW, people living in the inner cities and those earning over $80,000 preferred evolution as an explanation of how we got here." So the short answer seems to be 28%.... with Queenslanders less likely to be creationists - wow, for once we're more enlightened than the rest of the country (but I suppose the Sydney bible belt skews things quite a lot). And us Scienticians seem to be a large minority (good on ya Michael Lawley for coining that one). |< 2009/9/16 Andrew Wood While I'm shocked absolutely, I'm not sure how relatively shocked to be - what are the stats for this kind of question in Aus? On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Keith Duddy wrote: I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they don't say that only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whopping 39% don't know what they think... There are lots of other results shown by age, education, church attendance, etc: http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx |< 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and sample collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was stacked by a bunch of creationist preachers.... |< 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that produced it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the good ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other way round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a practising Catholic who gets evolution. lochy On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: ? The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup poll conducted in February, only 39 ? per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " ? Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in which it is possible to choose the ? gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the mechanisms of evolution - and in which ? gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a genetic defect, people still don't get ? it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a lot of smart Americans - some of ? them even Christians. ? |< ? 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch ? ? ? ? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film -too-controvers ? ? ? ? ial-for-religious-America.html ? ? ? ? ?_______________________________________________ ? ? ? ? eclectika mailing list ? ? ? ? eclectika@wudee.net ? ? ? ? http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika ?_______________________________________________ eclectika mailing list eclectika@wudee.net http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From ralf at muhlberger.com Tue Sep 15 21:26:42 2009 From: ralf at muhlberger.com (Ralf Muhlberger) Date: Tue Sep 15 21:26:27 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <3c2c94740909151823n3b3d91e0k7eb6b490012f051c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1548B9AE-5BE1-4909-8DA4-5FAE3846C205@muhlberger.com> Let's hope the survey takers were better at reading than Keith ;-) Sadly Queenslanders fell on the wrong side of the fence in the text you quoted.... Ralf On 16/09/2009, at 12:09, Keith Duddy wrote: > A quick search reveals: > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/27/1098667839167.html > > "More than a quarter of Australians believe the Bible offers a more > likely explanation of the origins of life than evolution, an opinion > poll says. > More people - 43 per cent compared with 28 per cent - preferred > science to religion, another 12 per cent were inclined towards a > combination of both, while 17 per cent were undecided whether the > earth was made in six days or billions of years. > > The poll, by UMR research for Hawker Britton, found that women, > older people, Liberal voters and Queenslanders were less inclined to > believe in evolution. People from NSW, people living in the inner > cities and those earning over $80,000 preferred evolution as an > explanation of how we got here." > > So the short answer seems to be 28%.... with Queenslanders less > likely to be creationists - wow, for once we're more enlightened > than the rest of the country (but I suppose the Sydney bible belt > skews things quite a lot). > > And us Scienticians seem to be a large minority (good on ya Michael > Lawley for coining that one). > > |< > > 2009/9/16 Andrew Wood > While I'm shocked absolutely, I'm not sure how relatively shocked to > be - what are the stats for this kind of question in Aus? > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Keith Duddy > wrote: > I found the link to the Gallup Poll, and the headline "On Darwin?s B > irthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution" seems accurate, but they > don't say that only 25% say they don't believe in it, and a whoppin > g 39% don't know what they think... There are lots of other results > shown by age, education, church attendance, etc: > > http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/Darwin-Birthday-Believe-Evolution.aspx > > |< > > 2009/9/15 Keith Duddy > > Yeah - I wonder what kind of Gallup Poll it was - sample size and > sample collection technique. Maybe it was an online poll that was > stacked by a bunch of creationist preachers.... > > |< > > 2009/9/15 Andrew Loch > > I'm sure that stat is real, but I'd like to see the survey that > produced > it. I'm sure there was a lot of 'preconditioning' in the lead-up > questions. I'd believe there were a lot of creationists etc in the > good > ole USAF but I'd think the figure would be more believable the other > way > round ie 39 percent don't believe in evolution. > > Who knows, they are crazy folk after all, and I say that as a > practising > Catholic who gets evolution. > > lochy > > > > > > On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: > > The article says: "...in a country where, according to a Gallup > poll conducted in February, only 39 > per cent of Americans believe in the theory of evolution. " > > Is that really true? It beggars belief really.... in a country in > which it is possible to choose the > gender and eye colour of your baby - choices enabled by the > mechanisms of evolution - and in which > gene therapy can mutate every cell in one's body to remove a > genetic defect, people still don't get > it?????? Perhaps I have only met those in that 39%... but I know a > lot of smart Americans - some of > them even Christians. > > |< > > 2009/9/14 Andrew Loch > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6173399/Charles-Darwin-film-too-controvers > ial-for-religious-America.html > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > > > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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People from NSW, people living in the inner cities and those > earning over $80,000 preferred evolution as an explanation of how we got > here." > > So the short answer seems to be 28%.... with Queenslanders less likely to > be creationists - wow, for once we're more enlightened than the rest of the > country (but I suppose the Sydney bible belt skews things quite a lot). > As I would have suspected - Queenslanders are more literal bible believing than the other states. |< -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090916/dcc398ca/attachment.htm From loch at pobox.com Tue Sep 15 21:38:50 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Tue Sep 15 21:38:57 2009 Subject: [eclectika] those crazy Yanks (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: <3c2c94740909151823n3b3d91e0k7eb6b490012f051c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This thread was brought to you by the new game "smack down Keith", a fun game all the list can play. join in now! Also as legal representative for Dr Lawley I will inform you that he expects financial remuneration for the use of his Trademarked and Copyright term Scientician (TM) and will be sueing you for libel (or is it slander, I'm not a very good legal rep) for implying he would ever be associated with such outlandish non-sense as this evolution malarky. As any sensible person knows we all originated from television signals of sitcoms transmitted from the planet Wonnogarbro X lochy On Wed, 16 Sep 2009, Keith Duddy wrote: Ooops. looks like I read that wrong.... The poll, by UMR research for Hawker Britton, found that women, older people, Liberal voters and Queenslanders were less inclined to believe in evolution. People from NSW, people living in the inner cities and those earning over $80,000 preferred evolution as an explanation of how we got here." So the short answer seems to be 28%.... with Queenslanders less likely to be creationists - wow, for once we're more enlightened than the rest of the country (but I suppose the Sydney bible belt skews things quite a lot). As I would have suspected - Queenslanders are more literal bible believing than the other states. |< From queazel at gmail.com Tue Sep 15 22:37:35 2009 From: queazel at gmail.com (Michael Norris) Date: Tue Sep 15 22:37:57 2009 Subject: [eclectika] eccentrika Message-ID: I'm on the bill for the Sydney & Canberra shows of the Let's Paint TV Live Australian tour - [details below]. If you haven't encountered the phenomenon of "Let's Exercise, Paint and Blend Drinks", have a peek on youtube (you might hate it as much as some folks hate Jud Jud, but to each... http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/05/audio_hoaxes_an.html ) I think John Kilduff will be pretty entertaining live. If it's totally not your thing, I recently discovered another charming eccentrik, but one with a much loftier mission. I saw a doco on the ABC on "sidewalk astronomer" - John Dobson http://www.sidewalkastronomers.us who sets up a telescope in the street and encourages people to look at the moon or sunspots. He has some somewhat minority opinions on cosmology, but he is an inspiring old bloke. embrace faliare, -m. --------------------------- Hey y'all. Please forward this to anyone in Sydney who may be interested. LETS PAINT TV live AUSTRALIA TOUR! Fri Sep 25 2009 @ The Red Rattler Theatre 6 Faversham St. Marrickville NSW 2204 JOHN KILDUFF is a Los Angeles based artist who hosts an art damaged infomercial that presents the inevitable fate of one of the most ambiguous, yet resonant, hallmarks of the 20th century; expression for expression?s sake. There is an urgency in Kilduff?s delivery that is begging for the immediate and direct involvement of the public to join him on his quest for cultural improvement, social-improvement, and self-improvement. However, the reality of his delivery results in a cacophony of sound and vision that will push the viewer into an absurd and sometimes harrowing world of contradictions. Watch him here, this is what he does best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvbL_5rH1QQ&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQUUriLDVZU Alongside him will be: Baaddd - http://www.myspace.com/baaddd ///???\\\ - http://www.myspace.com/ttttiiiimmmm Toecutter - http://www.myspace.com/toecuttersyco Defektro - http://defektro.com/ Loom -? http://www.myspace.com/loomismyoyster Queazel - hailing from the ACT he is a masterful sound scape artist. Things will kick off @ 9pm. cost is $10 "EMBRACE FALIARE" Best, Tim. ________________________________ Find out how here Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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They are certainly minority opinions, but that gives a vague sense that he is a bit of a crank, not true, his cosmology is based on a mountain of reserach (literature, not personal) in fact there would be very few academics that would equal his knowledge base, I've listened to him talk in Sydney in 1990 or 91 and it was very well considered even then,I can't remember the details but I remember thinking this actually makes a lot more sense and had fewer holes then competing theories on cosmology, which was one of my big interests at the time. Also calling him an eccentric I feel is not doing him justice because that again invokes a sort of boneheadedness in the face or in spite of how other people do things. Like you could call his opinions on telesope making also in the minority, which they were when he started in the 60s, but his ideas were so profound that they completely revolutinzed amateur astronomy, his mounting technique and telescope mirror making and testing technique which are all basically self taught, and actually came more the pragmatism of wanting a large telescope without spending any money, put amateur astronomers on the path to jumping from 6-8" telescopes,to 16-40" telescopes exapnding the universe for the amateur by 5 orders of magnitude, with an elegance of simplicity which is just breathtaking. From loch at pobox.com Wed Sep 16 03:49:29 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Andrew Loch) Date: Wed Sep 16 03:55:01 2009 Subject: [eclectika] dolphine safe tuna Message-ID: not so safe for others it seems http://southernfriedscience.com/2009/02/16/the-ecological-disaster-that-is-dolphin-safe-tuna/ From simon at rumble.net Thu Sep 17 01:03:30 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Simon Rumble) Date: Thu Sep 17 01:03:42 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Steakhouse or gay bar? Message-ID: <1234ca4a0909162303l7e9870f7n8e9ee2d9820ac1af@mail.gmail.com> This is just names, but I reckon a version with decor might work too. http://steakhouseorgaybar.com/ -- Simon Rumble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090917/7d11ae2a/attachment.htm From justien at gmail.com Thu Sep 17 06:49:18 2009 From: justien at gmail.com (jstn) Date: Thu Sep 17 06:49:30 2009 Subject: [eclectika] unh facebook? Message-ID: "Salamt datang, Justien!" I don't understand at all .... help me here eclecticans ... I have facebook, which uses a different gmail account from justien at gmail. Today I get "greetings and welcome to facebook!" in Indonesian. That's ok - sometimes justien at gmail is used mistakenly by people to sign up for things. So maybe that's what happened here - I therefore logged onto this new facebook profile, which uses my justien gmail account. But!! Half my current friends are there, including people I know, but haven't included in my facebook world. wtf? It's more than a bit creepy. -- the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual From nick at nick.on.net Thu Sep 17 07:10:26 2009 From: nick at nick.on.net (Nick Morrison) Date: Thu Sep 17 07:10:36 2009 Subject: [eclectika] unh facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM, jstn wrote: > "Salamt datang, Justien!" > > I don't understand at all .... help me here eclecticans ... ooh. a little strange. cookies? browser automatic login under your new gmail? clever phish? -- Nick Morrison From flippy at internode.on.net Thu Sep 17 19:37:49 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Thu Sep 17 19:38:00 2009 Subject: [eclectika] paris Message-ID: <00a801ca37f8$405fd5c0$c11f8140$@on.net> http://www.timschwartz.org/paris/ From simon at rumble.net Thu Sep 17 21:33:04 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Simon Rumble) Date: Thu Sep 17 21:33:13 2009 Subject: [eclectika] unh facebook? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1234ca4a0909171933k46f8c993ubce9bc01c41f0e43@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/17 jstn > So maybe that's what happened here - I therefore logged onto this new > facebook profile, which uses my justien gmail account. > > But!! Half my current friends are there, including people I know, but > haven't included in my facebook world. > wtf? > I don't use Facebook so this is all speculation, but doesn't it allow (encourage) you to spam all your friends using your address book (pulled from your local client, gmail account, hotmail account etc) to get them to sign up and pledge their eternal undying friendship to you, to make up for your inadequacies? I know LinkedIn has that "feature". So if people have the gmail account as your contact, they'll have desperately invited you, in the hope of validating their existence. -- Simon Rumble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090918/0a2abc1c/attachment.htm From jamie at goatforce5.org Fri Sep 18 08:22:10 2009 From: jamie at goatforce5.org (Jamie Wilson) Date: Fri Sep 18 08:22:22 2009 Subject: [eclectika] unh facebook? In-Reply-To: <1234ca4a0909171933k46f8c993ubce9bc01c41f0e43@mail.gmail.com> References: <1234ca4a0909171933k46f8c993ubce9bc01c41f0e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <58F153FB-CFED-456E-9192-0E7FA2C487C1@goatforce5.org> On 17-Sep-09, at 10:33 PM, Simon Rumble wrote: > I don't use Facebook so this is all speculation, but doesn't it > allow (encourage) you to spam all your friends using your address > book (pulled from your local client, gmail account, hotmail account > etc) to get them to sign up and pledge their eternal undying > friendship to you, to make up for your inadequacies? I know > LinkedIn has that "feature". So if people have the gmail account as > your contact, they'll have desperately invited you, in the hope of > validating their existence. /me feels validated knowing there's a reason Mr Rumble ignores my repeated pleading Facebook friend requests. :) ...j From woody at wudee.net Mon Sep 21 12:42:16 2009 From: woody at wudee.net (Andrew Wood) Date: Mon Sep 21 12:42:27 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Flash mob bike race finish... Message-ID: <3c2c94740909211042n2f200dacje26bbc466622a54f@mail.gmail.com> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2009/sep/21/tour-de-france-remi-gaillard Tour de France prankster takes flash mobs to another level Remi Gaillard is quite famous in France. He's quite famous because he films himself playing pranks on people, and posts them on the internet . His reasons? "C'est en faisant n'importe quoi qu'on devient n'importe qui" - "It's by doing whatever that one becomes whoever". "Whatever" has recently involved creating a fake Tour de France finish line and lying in wait for unsuspecting Sunday cyclists. The cyclists are suddenly greeted by an enthusiastic mob which covers them with praise, trophies and bottled water (watch the video above to get the full effect). Gaillard has gone to some lengths to make these mobs realistic, recruiting male flashers as a final touch. The video has gone viral, notching up over 0.75m views on YouTube alone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOur8qXvpnk [...] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090921/945f55b3/attachment.htm From jamie at goatforce5.org Mon Sep 21 13:16:17 2009 From: jamie at goatforce5.org (Jamie Wilson) Date: Mon Sep 21 13:16:24 2009 Subject: [eclectika] Flash mob bike race finish... In-Reply-To: <3c2c94740909211042n2f200dacje26bbc466622a54f@mail.gmail.com> References: <3c2c94740909211042n2f200dacje26bbc466622a54f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0C1F7238-052A-4232-9693-FAA36165900C@goatforce5.org> On 21-Sep-09, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Wood wrote: > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/green-living-blog/2009/sep/21/tour-de-france-remi-gaillard Similar to this prank by Improv Everywhere: http://improveverywhere.com/2008/11/17/welcome-back/ They sent a welcoming committee to an airport, and would look for names on the cards held up by waiting taxi drivers. Pick one at random, customise your half-made banners to put the persons name on it, and greet people excitedly when they go up to the driver. Brilliant. ...j -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you know (Australian) people who were in seminal underground bands, art movements, ran cool events, self-published stuff, were activists, or just have crazy memories of the time . . . . and you know how to contact them . . . . then please NOMINATE them for coverage over at http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/80speople/ . (You'll be redirected to a self-explanatory Google Docs web form which is capturing the information) Basically it would be nice to see some recognition of the people who generally slip through the cracks of 'official histories'. http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/80speople/ The Powerhouse is promising not to spam these nominations and certainly won't be sharing their contact details with anyone else. The exhibition is currently covering subcultures, music, fashion, 'partying' and design and opens in December. The curators are running a development blog over at http://www.powerhousemuseum.com/80s/ =============================================== -- the connotation depends on the beacon, as usual From flippy at internode.on.net Wed Sep 23 00:14:02 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Wed Sep 23 00:14:10 2009 Subject: [eclectika] the pentatonic scale Message-ID: <02a901ca3c0c$aad99220$008cb660$@on.net> http://vimeo.com/5732745 From flippy at internode.on.net Wed Sep 23 00:14:58 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Wed Sep 23 00:15:05 2009 Subject: [eclectika] the rest of it Message-ID: <02ac01ca3c0c$cbfa19c0$63ee4d40$@on.net> Is here http://www.worldsciencefestival.com/video/notes-neurons-full From keith.duddy at gmail.com Thu Sep 24 02:13:05 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Thu Sep 24 02:13:26 2009 Subject: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? Message-ID: Hi all, I've just finished watching True Blood S2, and am up to the last Weeds S5, and now I need to know what's cool "on TV" at the moment, so I know what to download next. (Am up to date on Dollhouse, and still a season behind in Dexter, and 2 seasons behind in Battlestar Galactica, so I'm slowly catching up on those.) Any recommendations? |< -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090924/daa731d7/attachment.htm From monoman at internode.on.net Thu Sep 24 06:41:30 2009 From: monoman at internode.on.net (Jonathan) Date: Thu Sep 24 06:41:41 2009 Subject: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ABB5AEA.8030609@internode.on.net> Keith, I've no idea what your alley is but: -Deadwood -The wire have both consumed hours of my life in recent times. Deadwood is a brilliant study in power, corruption, brutality, hope... well, maybe not that much hope. Acting & writing is brilliant, the writing & the acting particularly so... and all set in the semi-fantastical world of the frontier west. The Wire is very much the same, except not quite as wonderful because it's set in modern Philadelphia and you just can't quite escape the oppressive reality of it, and so it makes you a little sad.... ...sigh j Keith Duddy wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just finished watching True Blood S2, and am up to the last Weeds > S5, and now I need to know what's cool "on TV" at the moment, so I know > what to download next. (Am up to date on Dollhouse, and still a season > behind in Dexter, and 2 seasons behind in Battlestar Galactica, so I'm > slowly catching up on those.) > > Any recommendations? > > |< > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From msjaye at msjaye.com Thu Sep 24 07:13:27 2009 From: msjaye at msjaye.com (Jaye Gallagher) Date: Thu Sep 24 07:13:43 2009 Subject: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? In-Reply-To: <4ABB5AEA.8030609@internode.on.net> References: <4ABB5AEA.8030609@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4ABB6267.9000206@msjaye.com> Oh, now that I think about it, I'd strongly recommend both "Breaking Bad", and "Mad Men". Wikipedia can fill you in about both of these. Jaye. > > Keith Duddy wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've just finished watching True Blood S2, and am up to the last >> Weeds S5, and now I need to know what's cool "on TV" at the moment, >> so I know what to download next. (Am up to date on Dollhouse, and >> still a season behind in Dexter, and 2 seasons behind in Battlestar >> Galactica, so I'm slowly catching up on those.) >> >> Any recommendations? >> From ahortonart at earthlink.net Thu Sep 24 08:19:31 2009 From: ahortonart at earthlink.net (Andrew Horton) Date: Thu Sep 24 08:19:43 2009 Subject: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? Message-ID: <20484981.1253798371864.JavaMail.root@mswamui-cedar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Both are excellent. And The Wire has the best gay-on-the-downlow drug kingpin assassin on television--OMAR! Set in Baltimore, actually. -----Original Message----- >From: Jonathan >Sent: Sep 24, 2009 7:41 AM >To: eclectika@wudee.net >Subject: Re: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? > >Keith, I've no idea what your alley is but: > >-Deadwood >-The wire > >have both consumed hours of my life in recent times. Deadwood is a brilliant study in power, corruption, brutality, hope... well, maybe not that much hope. Acting & writing is brilliant, the writing & the acting particularly so... and all set in the semi-fantastical world of the frontier west. The Wire is very much the same, except not quite as wonderful because it's set in modern Philadelphia and you just can't quite escape the oppressive reality of it, and so it makes you a little sad.... > >...sigh > >j > >Keith Duddy wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've just finished watching True Blood S2, and am up to the last Weeds >> S5, and now I need to know what's cool "on TV" at the moment, so I know >> what to download next. (Am up to date on Dollhouse, and still a season >> behind in Dexter, and 2 seasons behind in Battlestar Galactica, so I'm >> slowly catching up on those.) >> >> Any recommendations? >> >> |< >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > _______________________________________________ >eclectika mailing list >eclectika@wudee.net >http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika From ahortonart at earthlink.net Thu Sep 24 12:17:58 2009 From: ahortonart at earthlink.net (Andrew Horton) Date: Thu Sep 24 12:18:09 2009 Subject: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? Message-ID: <24603831.1253812678849.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Defying Gravity was recently cancelled. Due to awfulness. And, per the Deadwood description, that's not mud. -----Original Message----- >From: Andy Adams-Moran >Sent: Sep 24, 2009 10:29 AM >To: Andrew Horton >Cc: Jonathan , eclectika@wudee.net >Subject: Re: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? > >I concur with all so far; I call Deadwood "Shakespeare in the mud"; >the language is a delight in itself. > >Dollhouse really does take 6 epis to build backstory, and some of it's >pretty clumsy. But it go crazy good after that. > >"Jekyll" from the U.K. (torrentable) is pretty excellent. > >Lighter, fluffier but still quality: Leverage. > >Best new realistic-ish sci-fi in the near future in space: Defying >Gravity. Only half through the first season and loving it. > >Also worth a gander to see if they float your boat: Warehouse 13, the >U.S. version of "Life on Mars". > >And Producer-of-women Horton is spot on with the Wire. Great scripts, >incredibly smart and apparently realistic, superb actors all around, >and then there's Omar, far and away the highlight of the show. And >yes, it's Baltimore, not Philly; I've even had prospective clients out >that way (i.e., D.C. area) tell me that "they know where my corner is" >:-) > >/A > >On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Andrew Horton wrote: >> Both are excellent. And The Wire has the best gay-on-the-downlow drug kingpin assassin on television--OMAR! >> Set in Baltimore, actually. >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: Jonathan >>>Sent: Sep 24, 2009 7:41 AM >>>To: eclectika@wudee.net >>>Subject: Re: [eclectika] What's cool in new TV? >>> >>>Keith, I've no idea what your alley is but: >>> >>>-Deadwood >>>-The wire >>> >>>have both consumed hours of my life in recent times. Deadwood is a brilliant study in power, corruption, brutality, hope... well, maybe not that much hope. Acting & writing is brilliant, the writing & the acting particularly so... and all set in the semi-fantastical world of the frontier west. The Wire is very much the same, except not quite as wonderful because it's set in modern Philadelphia and you just can't quite escape the oppressive reality of it, and so it makes you a little sad.... >>> >>>...sigh >>> >>>j >>> >>>Keith Duddy wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've just finished watching True Blood S2, and am up to the last Weeds >>>> S5, and now I need to know what's cool "on TV" at the moment, so I know >>>> what to download next. (Am up to date on Dollhouse, and still a season >>>> behind in Dexter, and 2 seasons behind in Battlestar Galactica, so I'm >>>> slowly catching up on those.) >>>> >>>> Any recommendations? >>>> >>>> |< >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ?_______________________________________________ >>>> eclectika mailing list >>>> eclectika@wudee.net >>>> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >>> _______________________________________________ >>>eclectika mailing list >>>eclectika@wudee.net >>>http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> >> ?_______________________________________________ >> eclectika mailing list >> eclectika@wudee.net >> http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika >> From flippy at internode.on.net Fri Sep 25 06:45:48 2009 From: flippy at internode.on.net (Ben Dixon) Date: Fri Sep 25 06:45:57 2009 Subject: [eclectika] bauhaus bike Message-ID: <4ABCAD6C.5000804@internode.on.net> http://www.baubike.dk/abot.html From loch at pobox.com Sun Sep 27 17:24:24 2009 From: loch at pobox.com (Lochy) Date: Sun Sep 27 17:25:35 2009 Subject: [eclectika] a social network for Keith Message-ID: I might visit too http://mashable.com/2009/09/27/connosr-whisky-social-network/ From keith.duddy at gmail.com Sun Sep 27 19:56:17 2009 From: keith.duddy at gmail.com (Keith Duddy) Date: Sun Sep 27 19:56:29 2009 Subject: [eclectika] a social network for Keith In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why thank you.... You have received three new tipples since your last login... |< 2009/9/28 Lochy > I might visit too > > http://mashable.com/2009/09/27/connosr-whisky-social-network/ > > > _______________________________________________ > eclectika mailing list > eclectika@wudee.net > http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://laika.gnusto.com/pipermail/eclectika/attachments/20090928/e15859bb/attachment.htm From Sarah.Eastwell at deedi.qld.gov.au Sun Sep 27 22:24:22 2009 From: Sarah.Eastwell at deedi.qld.gov.au (Eastwell, Sarah) Date: Sun Sep 27 22:24:38 2009 Subject: [eclectika] bauhaus bike References: <4ABCAD6C.5000804@internode.on.net> Message-ID: I like the bike, but recalling my grade 10 art lessons, the bauhaus mantra was "form follows function". I don't think that's a bauhaus bike. Sarah -----Original Message----- From: eclectika-bounces@wudee.net [mailto:eclectika-bounces@wudee.net] On Behalf Of Ben Dixon Sent: Friday, 25 September 2009 9:46 PM To: eclectika@wudee.net Subject: [eclectika] bauhaus bike http://www.baubike.dk/abot.html _______________________________________________ eclectika mailing list eclectika@wudee.net http://laika.gnusto.com/mailman/listinfo/eclectika ********************************DISCLAIMER**************************** The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. Opinions contained in the message(s) do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the Queensland Government and its authorities. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. From simon at rumble.net Mon Sep 28 01:20:54 2009 From: simon at rumble.net (Simon Rumble) Date: Mon Sep 28 01:21:00 2009 Subject: [eclectika] bauhaus bike In-Reply-To: References: <4ABCAD6C.5000804@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <1234ca4a0909272320qa033f4eg4ad3402c80e59175@mail.gmail.com> 2009/9/28 Eastwell, Sarah > I like the bike, but recalling my grade 10 art lessons, the bauhaus > mantra was "form follows function". I don't think that's a bauhaus bike. > You mean the Bauhaus whose Berlin museum has the manifesto proclaiming how they'll produce well designed, cheap everyday objects less than 5 metres from the shop selling a 450 Euro teapot? (It's an awesome museum, BTW, I just liked the chutzpah.) -- Simon Rumble -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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